Jake And Friends
Jake And Friends
Episode 53 - Where are the Biblical Men?
What's happening everybody? Welcome back to another episode of Jake and Friends. Um, we're back. Um,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:We are back.
Track 1:we took an unintentionally long amount of time off. Well, we missed a week, uh, or I guess two weeks and it's my fault. Uh, the long story short is we were about to go to Disney and I thought to myself, well, we're gonna go. We ended up gonna Disney November 1st through the fourth. Is that Wednesday through Saturday. And so we, uh, Halloween was Tuesday night. So like Monday night is the night Parker and I have unofficially dubbed as like that's the night. We'll try to record. And so I just assumed you were free that Monday and you weren't. And you were like, we could do it Tuesday. And I was like, I was like, oh, Tuesday's Halloween, and we're driving to Troy, um, to spend the night to sort of break up the trip before we head to Disney. So that's on me, honestly. Like, it's not, it's, it's my fault. And so I take full responsibility.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:well, it is what it is. I mean, I'm sure our listeners are just dying for another episode. I mean, just absolutely. Just cannot wait. And we let'em down. Jake, we let him down.
Track 1:I do have some people who will reach out to me and be like, Hey, what's the deal? And I'm like, I don't, I'm sorry. I was like, I don't know. I was like, you're just dealing with, you're dealing with, I mean, you like, you know who you're dealing with at this point. Like we're not professionals, uh, and we're not purporting to be. So, um, but what's been up since we've been out, you ask. Disney, well, actually first before Disney, we left off last time I had shot a buck
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Mm-Hmm.
Track 1:the back and missed it. I ended up seeing him on camera. I don't know if I have updated this. I saw him back on camera like a week and a half later with a, you know, a a, a bunch of fur missing and a scab kind of scabbed up on his backs strap. And I was like, I was like, well, I was like, he's there
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:He's, he's still living. He's still living so
Track 1:but why would you come back to the spot you got clipped at? You know what I mean? It's like if I
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:the size of a deer's brain. I mean, it's, there's not much brain space in there. So they're, they're thinking, what can I eat? What feeds me? And where can I poop? And that's pretty much it.
Track 1:Yeah. Um, I was, well, I was comforted because I spent three hours looking for that deer and didn't find him. And so I was like, well, good. I'm glad he is alive. Uh, but to follow that up, uh, ended up shooting my first deer ever with a bow. Um, my brother-in-law took, he took me to a lease. He had like a, a few days after, um, actually like the next day, I think after we recorded our previous, our most recent episode. And, um, shot a dough with about, you know, 10 minutes
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:a second.
Track 1:of
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:I thought you told me it was a butthead spike.'cause that's like what you love shooting. You love shooting a butthead spike.'cause it's the most tendered year. Is that not what you told? The group of me and Teal and, and Blake and Pearlstein.
Track 1:no, that's not even close. No, no,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:I'm just playing. I'm just playing.
Track 1:no, it was a real dough, uh, with no, with no horns. Um, but anyway, so that was cool. We got, we got the meat back last week and been eat. We ate some chili. It was great, dude. Um, so we went to Disney
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:this weekend.
Track 1:Oh yeah, it does.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Yeah. My, my dad has been sending me a ton of pictures. So I went, I went to our, uh, hunting property in New Hope Alabama in the middle of nowhere, uh, and helped my dad set up camera cameras and set up our feeders of corn and all that kind of stuff. And I mean, I've been sending you some pictures. We got some pretty nice little bucks there that my dad's been drilling us with pictures and, uh, he's like shot by the bits. So he's going this weekend and I'm, I'm fairly, I'm fairly certain that he's probably gonna kill one of those bucks, which I hope he does because we need some meat. But I'm excited about, I'm excited about deer season too. And duck season's coming in. Um, next, I guess a week from Friday, uh, duck season opens up, so I'm pretty excited about that. Um. It'll be a lot of
Track 1:Yeah. And for you, for you that's like relevant, like here, I feel like in, for, for what I've heard pretty much you got like Lake Gunville and like, sort of north of that I think is decent. Um, and then you've got like the bay, like the mobile bay, right? Is that or the, is it the costway? Is that where, uh,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Yeah. So it's, it's basically the bay. So, you know, you have the bayway, which is like the interstate 10 that goes through the tunnel. Mobile you can hunt, um, as, as long as you're a hundred yards away from that, but you cannot hunt. Um, in between the causeway and the bayway, which the bayway is the bridge that goes all the way through the causeway is the actual land that goes through, that's not interstate 10, so you can't hunt in between there, but you can hunt a hundred yards away. Um, so we, there's a bunch of blinds that are made and if you guys that don't know, like about Mobile Bay, it is like super shallow. Like you can walk hundreds of yards. I mean, you'll be walking in mud, but you can walk hundreds of yards in Mobile Bay and it not even be up to your waist, uh, depending on the tide and all that. But, um, yeah, we going, we also go up in the upper delta, which is like, um, north of the bay and go into the woods back there and a bunch of wood ducks will get back there and man, they fly like crazy through, through those woods. It's, it's literally like when they start flying, it's like World War iii. I mean, it's like. Gunshots everywhere. And it's, it's pretty, it's pretty amazing. You gotta come, you gotta come down here.
Track 1:I'd love to, I haven't been invited,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Uh, whoa, whoa, whoa, I guess you, uh, well, I'm inviting you
Track 1:you invited me last year.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:so I did, we just couldn't figure it out last year. It's hard, you know, for you to come down, but come on
Track 1:I'll empty, I'll empty some shells and not hit anything for sure. And I'll have fun doing it,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Uh, bro,
Track 1:and I'll
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:even get into,
Track 1:ducks that aren't mine,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:oh dude, you know, it's, it's gotta go on Instagram. If you, if you kill any ducks, especially if you limit out, you gotta put it on Instagram. But everybody know like, yeah, we limit out and then like, everyone around here will be like, Hey, where'd you go? Like, where'd you kill all this wood ducks? Or where'd you kill, you know, all those ducks. So, yeah. So it's pretty fun. It's a lot of fun. So I'm ready. We got a lot of hunting coming up. So you said that you went to Disney after that.
Track 1:Yeah. So, um, I have, we got some things to address with Disney, um, with Disney World, um, and likely Disneyland. I'm sure it's the same over there, but, uh, you know, I I, I, I would say, you know, we took our two oldest girls didn't take our son who's 18 months old. And so, you know, I told Ella when we went, I was like, look, I'm we're, I was like, don't tempt me with like adult stuff. I was like,'cause we're gonna be here, we're here for our kids. So like, we're gonna do the kids stuff, we're gonna do the princesses, we're gonna do.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Right,
Track 1:Meet Mickey and Minnie, all that stuff. Like, and that's fine with me. That's what I wanted. You know, I wanted to have fun with them and just spend time with my family. Um, and I, the second day we went to Hollywood Studios and so like, I got to mix in some adult stuff and then the last day we tried to split some stuff at Epcot. But first day at Magic Kingdom people, we need to address it. Like there is, there are far too many people on scooters, mobile scooter, electronic scooters. It is, someone warn my, I think, uh, Alice's sister warned me about it. Like, she was like, Hey, you're just gonna, I just need you to get right with this in your theology that you're gonna see a whole lot of scooters. And especially like a ton of people who like, don't even look like they should be on a scooter. They don't meet the age requirement and they don't, I mean, they've got both their legs and both their legs work.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Right,
Track 1:They just don't wanna get up and walk.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Mm.
Track 1:And I just don't
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:I'm telling you it is like, we kind of talked about it, you know, texting back and forth while you guys were there, but it is like, it is insane. How, and, and Disney, because, and I'll say this'cause I'm not afraid, Disney is, as we know, has gone Very far to the left when it comes to being inclusive and letting people feel what they want to feel and, and do what they want to do. And so like even at the parks, they're like, they got those, they got those scooters lined up as soon as you walk into the park. So like, you want a scooter, come on. It doesn't matter. Just, it doesn't matter if you weigh, you know, 120 pounds, if you feel like you need a scooter, come on and get one. We're still going, you're still gonna pay us, so we're still gonna get the money. So just go ahead, get one, feel what you wanna feel. But yeah, they're all over the place.
Track 1:Uh, dude, like the la So the last day was at Epcot, and if you're unfamiliar with Epcot, it's fine. I'll, I'll explain it to you. It's basically like a figure, like a figure eight.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Hmm.
Track 1:kinda like both, like the top, the top circle is like, I would describe where most of the like rides are. And then like the, the farther into the park you go, you have the, around the world, you know, people like to eat and drink around the world. And there are, there are a few rides down there. So like
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Right.
Track 1:we, we did the lightning lane thing, which is where you just like, you know, you pay like$25 a person for the day to like basically skip some lines. If you can afford to do that, do it. I don't care who you are. When you're going to Disney, you realize, oh well it's not gonna be that crowded that day. I don't care. Just do it. It's worth it. So
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Yep.
Track 1:anyway, we had the lightning lane booked at like 10:00 AM for the OUI ride. And so I. I'll, I'll save you the details. Once you book one, you can't, you, you can't book another one until you use that one. So we were saying, okay, if we've got OU booked, we're gonna do the next best ride first thing in the morning. And so for us, that was the Elsa ride, the frozen ride. And that's in nor it's in Norway. And so Norway is not at the top part, but it's like at the bottom part, remember? So it's like kind of, I, I'd say it's like a full half mile threequarter mile walk from
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Yeah. It's a pretty good walk.
Track 1:the, the park entrance all the way there. Like, and so, so we stayed on, on site, like on a Disney resort. And so you got early entry, which is 30 minutes early, so it was like eight 30 and we show up and how every. Every park does it as like, they sort of do like a rope drop every day and they don't really drop a rope, they just have, uh, an employee there and they're like, Hey, now it's time. Um,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:right.
Track 1:so there's like 50 to a hundred people standing at this area. And there Epcot has several entrances that you can like, sort of start your journey off at. And so we were there and I was pushing a double stroller with our girls in there. And I looked at a, and I looked around and there were like three scooter people lined up at the front, like ready to go. And I looked at a and I said, you better keep up with me'cause I'm fixing to smoke these scooter people. I was like,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:you can't, your pride would not allow you to let them beat you. Like, nah, I'm gonna show them the power of pushing through my legs.
Track 1:And they said, Hey, the rule was, they're like, don't run. They're like, you're not allowed to run, but you can walk fast. And I was like, ally, you better walk as fast as those legs will allow you.'cause I'm not waiting. so we're we, so like eight 30, they're like, you can go in the park. And I'm just like pushing, I'm pushing the stroller. I'm striding, I'm six, five and a half. I can, I can get out there
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Got some good strides. That's
Track 1:start, I, I start passing folks and they're like, I'm like, yeah, try keeping up next time, idiot. And it's like, I'm a half mile in. I'm a half mile in Parker. And the three scooter people are like a hundred yards in front of me still. They're not getting caught. I'm not making any ground
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:They are.
Track 1:Like, and they wouldn't turn around and look at me. You know, they're not gonna make eye contact because if we made eye contact and we saw each other, they'd know that I'd know that they don't need to be on that scooter. And so we end up going to the same ride. And I told Ella, I was like,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:gosh.
Track 1:ally finally Al's probably like 50 yards behind me by the end of it. And so I just waited on her. I was like, I was like, you know, I beat most people there. And I told Ally, I was like, Al, on a full charge, you can't beat any of those scooter people. I was like, they've been, they've been charging nothing all night, all night
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Now the question is, was that their own personal scooter or was that a rented scooter they got from Disney?
Track 1:I think all of them were rented. I didn't see too many. I saw a handful of personal scooters, but you could see that a lot of them were either. I don't know if like certain resorts carry a bunch of them or if each park has its own style, but they all kind look the same,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:My, my scooter,
Track 1:yeah.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:scooter knowledge at Disney World is very limited, uh, because my only view of scooters is what I see when I walk around the parks. Um,'cause I mean obviously we, we don't use scooters and I don't judge those that that choose to. However, um, I don't know if I so much agree with, um, with using scooters because, uh, you want to eat around the world or more say, or more so, uh, drink around the world or be there on the rope drop so I can beat the guy that's pushing his two kids behind me, uh, to the frozen rod. Uh, but you know, I guess you have your own choices, but I, I choose not to do that.
Track 1:There were definitely some people who needed it, like there were some elderly people and some, some clearly disabled people who needed it, and, but still at least 60% of the people using them had no business using them, in
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Well, I'll say like, you know, we, me and you have talked about this before, you know, when we go to Disney World, we always take my cousin Scott, who has Down Syndrome. And, um, he's, he's pretty short. Uh, you know, he's probably what, I don't know, five, five maybe, something like that. But so his strides are not very long. Um, and he does get tired, uh, after he goes, when we go to all four parks, like four different days, he'll last the whole first day walking around by himself. He doesn't want a scooter. He doesn't like it. Um, and so, and standing in lines with him, it can't be difficult for him, but he still, like, the next day we usually rent a, uh, get him a wheelchair, not because he really needs it, but because he's just, he he wears them out. Um, so like, you know, there's people like him that will benefit from things like that, but. Like I said earlier, because Disney World has made the stance of, or Disney has made the stance of being, you know, feel what you want to feel, do what you want to do. Like they took that stance. So they gotta allow people that want to drink around the world and rent a scooter and gotta allow'em to do it, you know? So it's tough,
Track 1:Yeah.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:but
Track 1:say do it. That I, I mean, like, I'd still say go, like I had, we had fun and I told Ally, I was like, I see why people want to go back. You know? Like we had minimal expectations, like we didn't try to. Make it into what, you know, it's not, it's not real life, you know, it's just a vacation, you know. But it was a lot of fun. Um, and we didn't spend near the money that we've heard some people can spend. So we thought, we thought we still got our money's worth for sure.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Yeah, I mean, most of the time, like when Kayla and I have gone and taken our boys, like we don't, we like spend the most on obviously your place to stay, but we, like, we've never stayed on site because like, we're so cheapo people that, like Airbnbs, like you can get a five bedroom, five bath house. Um, that's right down the road and it served just as much purpose, uh, staying on site, but we'd like to stay on site. But, um, yeah, you can, you can really blow some money there if you really wanted to, but you can also get by with just spending the bare minimum to enjoy yourself and not blow your money.
Track 1:Yeah, for sure.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:it's fun.
Track 1:But, well, that's really the, the biggest updates I had. Um, so
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:I, I have an update? uh, I forgot to mention. So, um. You know, our, for those that don't know, our oldest son was born, uh, prematurely. He was born at 27 weeks. Um, which full gestational time you're supposed to go, baby's supposed to be in the womb for at least 40 or 40 weeks or so. Um, 38 to 40 weeks. Well, he was born 27 weeks and he spent, um, 90 days, uh, in women's and children's hospital in, uh, mobile. Um, so I'm not gonna get into all the detail with that'cause we kind of talked about that in a previous podcast, uh, with you. Um,
Track 1:yeah.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:so if you wanna go back and listen to that, go for it.
Track 1:yeah, trying to find the episode number, but.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Okay. Well, all that to be said, uh, my wife, uh, found like we had just really been. Tugging in our hearts, the Lord's been like, was tugging in our hearts a couple years ago to really do something, to bless those families over there and to bless the families with babies in the nicu, but also bless the doctors and the doc, uh, and the nurses because man, the nurses are like. Like literal angels from heaven above. They are so, so awesome. Um, they do so many jobs, not just taking care of your child. Um, but they're also like counselors. They're also like spiritual counselors. They're, I mean, they do a whole bunch of stuff. Anyways, I. My wife, uh, got in contact, um, with one of her friends out of Birmingham and she just started a, uh, her friend started a new ministry called Holcomb Ministries. Um, and so if you don't, if you wanna check it out, we'll put it in the description box at YouTube. Um, but Holcomb Ministries is based out of, uh, Birmingham. And basically what they do is they have these things called blessing bags, where they put different things in the bag that provides, um, like a, a, uh, a book for the baby in the child, uh, in the nicu. Um, a devotional for the parents. Um, it has like letters written that explains the gospel. Um, but all of Holcomb Ministries is about Psalm 23, where it talks about the Lords My Shepherd. Um, and so that book, the devotional and all the letters and everything in there all is about Psalm 23. Um, and so basically it's just a ministry to, um. Bless those families with things that they need during that time, uh, that you don't really think about, um, until you're in, you know, hospital for multiple days, uh, with your child. Um, but also it provides'em the gospel hope, uh, and, and a very hopeless situation. So my wife and I were able to, uh, have our small group of eighth graders, uh, fill the blessing bags with all the materials that we put in there, um, this past Sunday. And then yesterday Kayla and I and, um, Ryan Smith, the youth pastor at our church, and, uh, a few other students went, uh, and dropped them off at the NICU last night. Um, that's, it's always a good time. It's always good for us to kind of remember all that God has done through Beckham's life and through that, um, through that hospital. And we saw nurses that took care of Beckham and um. It sounds always a good time, so I highly encourage you guys, especially at the end of the year that's coming up. You're considering where to give to. Uh, they are a 5 0 1 c3, um, and, uh, all of the funds go to, uh, you know, all NICU families, NICU babies, NICU families, and serving them and telling them about Jesus the whole time. So it's a really cool ministry that Carol and I gotta partner with. So we'll put it in the description box and we'll maybe put it in some social media. So let you see it, but it's pretty cool. So did you find that episode?
Track 1:Yep. It's episode 16. It's called Born at 27 Weeks, and it came out on February 14th, 2022. If you're looking at it from a date perspective, so go back to the beginning of 2022. It's the 16th episode, so that's really cool. Yeah. Uh, fun fact of the day. I think I tried to invite them on my podcast before met and it didn't work out, and then we just never followed back up with each other
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Well, she'd be a good one to come back. She'd be a good one to get on the podcast.'cause she, uh, yeah, she's done a lot. I mean, it's like, I don't, I don't know the exact number of how many hospitals, but it's like, it's, it's, it's spreading pretty wildly, um, all over,
Track 1:that's really cool.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:at least the Midwest, uh, not the Midwest. More like, you know, Indiana, I think as, as north as it's gone, but also goes to, um, I mean all over the place. There's a bunch of, Kayla knows the numbers. Um, I just am the body to put all the stuff in and carry all the stuff. So it's pretty
Track 1:Yeah.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:So you can follow on Instagram too.
Track 1:that. Yeah. Holcomb Ministries, connecting that loop is they're good friends with, um, three time Jake and friends. Trivia podcast champion Sam Wilson.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Mm.
Track 1:there's your,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Shout out to Sam Wilson.
Track 1:there, there, there's your, it's a small world after all. Uh, fun fact of the day. And look at what we've done with that
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:man, that's great. That's great.
Track 1:so what we wanna talk about today, awkward segue, um, is. Just talk about, you know, I wanted to talk to Parker, or, or I guess I wanted Parker and I to talk about, you know, godly men in general. Like what, like what does it mean to be a godly man? Or where did all the godly men go? Not like there, not, like, there's none left, you know what I mean? Um, but it can be overwhelming at times. I think just to look around and see all the lawlessness and godlessness in our country, specifically America, you know, and just think, oh, well there's nothing like where are all the godly men at? Who, who's leading, who's leading the church? You know? Uh, and I'm say that sort of flippantly, um, knowing that there are plenty of godly men, um, still in this country, um, who are living faithful. Um, so I just saw, you know, that's been something that's been on my heart for a while. Um, and just wanted to talk about that. So, um, yeah, what you got.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Yeah. Um, yeah, when you asked me about this topic, I was like, oh, man, that's, it's, it's very challenging because, I mean, I'm 32 and proud to be 33, and, uh, been married for nine years, going on 10, and I just like, man, I don't feel like I have a lot to bring. But, uh, in the same, in the same sense though, it's like I, I do need to bring more and, and Christian men, not just me, but Christian men need to be more, uh, vocal about what it means to be an actual man. Uh, because even if you don't feel adequate enough, like, I mean,'cause gosh, I feel so often at being the man of my house, um, and come live with me for five minutes. You'll see that. But there's also a lot of good things that God has taught me through not just being married and being the man of the house, but also I look back and I think about, you know, there's a, there's a time and a season for everything. Uh, when it comes to being a man, a Christian man, a Christ following man. It's not just in marriage, it's also where you are right now in your life. Uh, like I was not a. Christian man when I was not following the Lord.'cause obviously I was not a Christian. Uh, and I slowly, and then, but then there was a time when I became a Christian to the time of dating Kayla that I learned a ton about what it means to be a biblical man, thanks to other men in my life. So,
Track 1:Mm-Hmm.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:so yeah, uh, this is a, it is a, it is a tough topic and there's a lot of things that we won't talk about that we're,'cause we're not experts of it, uh, just kind of, you know, we feel like the scripture says and what we're learning, you know? So what if, what does you find that, um, like when it comes to biblical manhood, what did you find to be the, I guess
Track 1:Well, yeah, no, yeah, yeah. So first, like, I, I like to some, sometimes I like to like, find statistics, you know what I mean? Like,'cause I, I'm a accountant and I like numbers and I can make'em work. I can, I can make'em work for me.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:That's right.
Track 1:the number slaps dude. Uh, uh, you don't, if you don't know what slaps means, ask a 10th grader. Do people say slaps at Fairhope High School? Do people say, do that
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:No, no. They say, um, they, they say it's lit still. Um, and I can't, I can't remember. There's something that's really dumb. See, when the kids like, say really dumb stuff that I just like think is so stupid, I let it go one ear out the other. And I don't think of it because I'm like, I'm never gonna say that. Not because I'm old, but I just think
Track 1:w.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:dumb. Yeah.
Track 1:if you talk about w Riz
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Yeah. Exactly.
Track 1:l Riz, I had to figure that one out. Anyway. Sorry. So tangent back to it. So like, I do like to find statistics, but I didn't feel like, I honestly didn't feel like researching statistics for this episode. I didn't feel like it was gonna bring in my opinion, a whole lot of value because if you were to ask the question of like, where are all the godly men? Like, that's a subjective question to ask Google. You know what I mean? It's not like you can, I mean, you can Google things like church attendance as far as like, uh, America goes and like that's definitely like our church has been very open about the communication between, or as far as like church statistics as a whole throughout the, uh, especially covid, once Covid started and sort of onward, it's like definitely sort of slacked off as far as attendance goes. But like, you know, you can just. You can Google anything on like statistics as far as, you know, like objective, like, uh, stuff, whatever. Um, but I really just wanted to look and see like at the end of the day, if we're, um, reading the Bible and using that as absolute truth and relying on scripture and the power of scripture to mold our lives and mold our heart. And like, I wanted to go back there. So, um, I had someone recently tell me the Old Testament doesn't slap and I had to disagree, but let's the story for another day. What? I had to disagree. I didn't, I I was respectful anyway. Like now I could go through like a bunch of dudes in the Bible.'cause like, I think all the main characters, right? Or, um. that you could draw from. Right. But I think one thing you hit on, uh, we, we, I'm gonna talk about Joshua at first.'cause like, one thing you hit on, um, was about having someone disciple them. Be a godly, like have a godly man discipling you and Moses, as far as we know, like I, I would imagine Moses would've interacted with Joshua at some point. Um, maybe not. I mean, but, um, if, uh, if Joshua and Caleb were the two who got sent over to Canaan to see if the lamb was good and like, I would imagine he would've been reputable in his tribe. And so, um, the second thing though is if I'm skipping to the end of Joshua's life, you know, I think about like Jo, or maybe not the end of his life, per se, but more so the end of the book. Put my glasses on for this. Took
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:see. You know you're getting old.
Track 1:but I didn't wanna sign. I'm getting old. Um,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Mm-Hmm,
Track 1:so you get to the end and they're like kind of splitting up the land. I think that's where it is. Anyway, so in Joshua 24 is a popular verse. Uh, it's 24 15, uh, and Joshua's telling the people the Israel to stay. And if it is evil in your eyes to serve the Lord, choose to stay whom you'll serve, whether the gods your father served in the region, beyond the river or the gods of the Amorites and who's laying you dwell. But it's for me and my house. We will serve the Lord. And like if you were to look in, I don't know, 70% of Christian homes, you probably find that verse, um,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:You find it in my home. It's actually, it's actually right above, right above our TV and our living room. We have a big plaque that says, ask for me in my house. We'll serve the Lord. But, you
Track 1:Yeah.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:I'll talk about that in just a second. You, you go ahead.
Track 1:Yeah, dude. Yeah, yeah. No, you can definitely hit on it, um, in a minute. So we were, was looking, I thought that was a cool story. I've always liked Joshua's story because if, well, a, if you look at Joshua, like, he's one of the only godly men in scripture who doesn't have like a, like an Achilles heel, you know what I mean? Like, you know, Moses sinned when he struck the rock. Abraham slept with, uh, Haggai, uh, David slept with Bathsheba. You know, Solomon turned away from God. Um,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:right. At the end of
Track 1:a lot of a. Yeah, a lot, a lot of the, a lot of the, the heroes of the Bible, um, have like significant downfalls and like Joshua's no different. He's still sinful, but like, there's just not highlighted any, like, he just sort of lives his life and serves God and then that's like, that's it. You know what I mean? Like, and, and he doesn't, you know, he doesn't golf and murder a bunch of people on because he gets angry, you know? Um, but I, I just thought that was really cool from that perspective. But also that when he said that, he said, like in verse 14 and 15, he's talking about like, you know, choose what you're gonna do this day. And he warns the Israelites against worshiping false gods. And he is like, and if you turn away from God, he's like, he goes on to say like, God's a jealous God. And he is like, you know, but for me in my house, we're gonna serve the Lord so he doesn't wait. I guess one of the characteristics in a Godly man, I don't know if we should change the title of this podcast episode, like the characteristics of a godly man or not, but, um, he looks and sees, or sorry, excuse me, he, he doesn't wait to see what the other Israelites are gonna say. You know, he doesn't wait to see, well, well how about we just bring this up? We'll give them options and whatever they choose, that's where I'll end up going. I'll just follow them. You know, and there could have been a million Israelites at this time. He makes a firm stance like, I'm gonna serve God and I don't like it. Ultimately, it doesn't matter what you decide to do, but this is what I'm doing. And so he knows, he's firm. He's firm in his faith with and trusting that the Lord has brought him out of Egypt, brought him out of the wilderness, and has provided for him every step of the way. And he is like, this is the only way. And so I just thought that was, that was one really cool example of like seeing how a, an example of a godly man in scripture. Um, but what was your,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:cool about what's cool about Joshua is that he like, I mean, he was thrown in, he, he was thrown in jail, like, you know, for Yeah, yeah. Well, he just, yeah, he was thrown in jail for not even, maybe I'm not thinking about the right dude.
Track 1:I don't know if you are, I'm not challenging. It's okay
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:not thrown in jail. He's not in jail. No, he is not in jail. I'm thinking about somebody else. Joshua. What? What's cool about Joshua though? And I was, I guess I'll just skip what I was gonna say because I was thinking about somebody else, but, um, we, the reason why we have that verse and on the top of our, the center of our house, um, is that. We use it as a reminder to our children often to, to remind them like, look like we're not gonna be like everybody else. Like, and it doesn't matter what everybody else is doing. It doesn't matter if you know they're having all this fun doing different things or it, you don't need to know why. You don't even know why we're doing things. The only thing you need to think about is that we're serving the Lord and we're gonna choose to do what is right in his eyes regardless of what the repercussions of this world will bring to us. Um,'cause I mean, all throughout scripture and even through Jesus' life, he said it over and over again. Like, persecution, iss gonna come, it will come. And you have to stand true, uh, to who you say that you believe in. Um, and you know, in America we don't face a lot of persecution, but it's coming, um, especially here in the south. It is, it's coming and it comes in ways that might not be like, you know, we're gonna have to stand. Um, stand up and possibly give up our life, uh, for Christ, which, you know what, that's one of the biggest honors you could probably do, but that's a whole nother story. Um, but, um, you know, we just tell our children all the time, like, you know. Other people might do it a certain way, but we're gonna do what we think scripture says is, and what God's spirit tells us to do, because we are choosing to serve the Lord. And it doesn't matter what anybody else is doing, we're gonna focus on them. And that's why we love that verse. And we remind our children all the time, and now we ask them like, you know, when we say, hey, like, you know, have a great, when we take'em to school, like, Hey, have a great day at school. Listen to obey to your teachers unless they lead you into sin. And also, you know, why do we do that? And they say, because it honors God and we wanna serve the Lord. We're like, exactly. That's, that's the reason why every, everything that we do that we feel like is right in God's eyes. That's what we wanna do. And I, yeah, I, we love that verse and I think our children love it too, for the most part that we know they're five and almost two, but um, yeah, man, there's so
Track 1:a good early two thousands,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:do it.
Track 1:I was gonna say, if you need a, if you need a good early two thousands praise and worship song, you can do that. As for me and my house,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Mm-Hmm.
Track 1:we serve the Lord. Yes. Yeah.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:The, the listeners didn't know they were gonna get you a charade on here, man, that's awesome.
Track 1:you can have all of it. I'm just kidding. Not like that. You can have my musical
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. For sure, for sure. Alec can have all that. Anyways, uh,
Track 1:She's got the rest of me.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:I'm sure she's gonna enjoy. She's gonna say, Jake, why are you putting that on your podcast? Um, anyways,
Track 1:much worse
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Now when, when you asked me like, if we want to do this, I was like, okay, so where do I even start? And I started thinking about like, you know, all of the different. Old Testament men, uh, in, um, in the Old Testament that just continued to follow the Lord. Yes. They were still, they still failed him. Like the guys you mentioned, um, and I don't wanna sound cliche or everything, but literally, like I thought about it, like, Jesus, like literally embodied what masculinity really is. Uh, I mean, he, he really was the true masculinity and what a man of God is supposed to look like. And so I asked Kayla, I was like, okay. What are some things that you, um, that you feel like are attributes or anything that you, when you think of a godly man, a Christian man, what do you think of? And I was hoping she was gonna say me, but you know. That's okay. She didn't No, I'm just playing. She, she just said like, well, uh, she started naming off like, you know, well, I think a godly man has kindness and he has joy and he has peace. And she basically started naming all those fruits of the spirit. And I was like, exactly. I said, that's, that's right. Uh, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. So like, I was like, yeah, that's right. And she said, and she said also, and this is, this is actually what I thought about and I'm glad she said this. She said, um, you know, Jesus said like, the greatest commandment is to love the Lord your God with all of your heart, all your soul, and with all your mind. And this is the first and the greatest commandment. And I was like, okay. So basically what Jesus is saying is you have to love the Lord with all of your heart and. That's what he did. I mean, he, he loved the Lord, his father with all of his heart, all of his soul, and all of his mind. And so if a man is to be a man, he has to first love the Lord his God with all of his heart all. And what does that entail? It tells so much, uh, that we could probably spend the rest of the podcast talking about that, but it basically, it's like it covers, it's like the, it's like the umbrella for which we live under, basically. I mean, that's, that's what a biblical man is. He's supposed to love his Lord as God and everything else take care of itself,
Track 1:Yeah, dude. You, so you stole what I was, I'm not joking. Uh, it's Matthew 20. 2 34 through 37 or 30. Yeah. It starts in 34 and it was talking about it'cause the Pharisees wanted to come and like, you know, once again try to trap Jesus and like, hey, oh there's,'cause they would've obviously known the Torah and known the 10 Commandments plus all the other commandments that were rolled out subsequently. And they just wanted to ask Jesus like, Hey, what's the greatest one? And I think I've seen this diagram. I'm gonna butcher it. Um, for sure. But basically the, there's certain of the 10 commandments, I wanna say like three or four of'em are about like loving the Lord your God. And like sin like commandments again, like that pertain to you and God. And then there's three or four that pertain to like. Yourself, um, like sins against yourself, and then there's three or four or however many that are like sins against other people. So that, and I thought that it was, I think it was in, or I guess it's why Jesus was saying, love the Lord your God, uh, can't see again. Um, he said, love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And then the second is like this, you should love your neighbor as yourself. So he is like, he's like, Hey, just love me and love your neighbor as yourself. I'm like, and that kind of covers all the commandments that the Pharisees were trying to trap Christ in. And so I just thought I was, I thought it was cool. And it's simple, you know what I mean? You're like, and if you know, I guess just take a step back. We can get, you know, face deep in. Theology, which I'm not great at, you know, navigating through that kind of stuff. Uh, and we can talk about like nitpicky things that Christians like to talk about, but at the end of the day, that's, that's like being a Christian. It's like loving your God and loving your neighbor as yourself because you love yourself. You know, you do. Like, if there's not many people on this world that have a tough time loving their self, I love myself. I can tell you that for sure. I was
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Yep.
Track 1:20 strides in to trying to beat some kids or some adults on some scooters just so I could get in front of them. On the Elsa ride,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:because I wanted, I wanted what I wanted, you know, and man
Track 1:I.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:a gosh, like if I just like think back about today and like, think about how often I thought about myself, like out of like percentage of a hundred percent of my thoughts today. I mean, it would be close to probably, I mean, I don't really wanna put a percent, I guess I don't wanna put a percentage on it'cause I don't, I don't wanna be too low, but like, I feel like most of my thoughts today. Yeah, and I was gonna say in the nineties, like, I, I just don't wanna be too low. Like it was about me, like I thought about me a lot. And that's like the complete opposite of who Jesus was and the complete opposite of the spirit. And like, going off of what you're saying about Matthew 22, like one of my most favorite verses in all of scriptures, uh, Philippians two, five through eight, and it's a pretty popular verse, but it just, it kind of goes in with like the very nature of who Jesus is and, and how he embodied, uh, masculinity. And I think like being a man of God, like we have to love the Lord our God. And I think that means like we have to, we have to be like Christ in everything possible we can. And so one of the big things that Christ did was that he came to serve not to be served. So if he came to serve and he was God in the flesh and he. He deserved everyone serving him. But he didn't come for that. He came as a lowly, lowly, poor servant man, uh, to serve us not to be served. And so if he did that, then how can we not? So Philippians two, five through eight. It says, uh, let's see. It says, have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus. Who though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God, a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of man and being found in human form. He humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. So like, we are, we are the very first thing that verse says is have this mind among ourselves. So as men, like it's very, it's a tendency for us to like stand over other people like and be more powerful
Track 1:Especially other men. Yeah,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Yeah. And like be like, oh yeah, like I work out, I'm starting around that guy. Or uh, like, yeah, I can beat that dude up, or I make more money than him, or My wife's
Track 1:shot that bigger.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Right? It always won up each other, but like, that's the complete opposite of who Jesus was, like the opposite. And he, it literally says like, he emptied himself, so like he was, he's God. And he had everything that He ever, I mean, he was with God. He was God and he is still God, but like he completely emptied himself so that he could come and take the form servant and being born like us and then give up himself. Like if he did that, like how can I not be that way? So being a man is not, and and this is a whole other tangent on this too, but a big thing of the church right now, like. And just our country is about leadership. Like be a leader, be, you know, and yes, I do agree, like, yeah, you are supposed to be different and, and be some type of leader, but, but you know, in scripture it never talks about leadership. Like there's nothing in scripture about leadership itself. It's all about serving and and thinking about others before yourself. Like Jesus. He never talked about leadership. He, he didn't stand up like and try to go with the leadership like the Pharisees. He did the complete opposite. Like he went with the lowly and he served people. And so if Jesus, who is our savior and Lord, uh, became a lowly servant and served other people, And yes, he did lead his disciples, but he was more of a servant and serve them out of love than being a leader, if that makes sense. So in reality, he was a servant leader, not really a, just a leader. And so like when I hear like, we're gonna have this leadership conference and you know, we're gonna do all this training on leaders, and like, I'm like, okay, I get their heart behind it, but can we just like, and this is probably just my nitpickiness, can we just like change the wording? Because I feel like that's not biblical. Like I feel like servant leadership, like, you're not here because like, you're not going to this leadership conference because you're gonna be over other people. Like I feel like it being like called a leader is like, it, it kind of carries a weight of like, I'm over people. But like Jesus was the complete opposite. Like he served people. Anyways, that's a whole nother tangent, but that's so.
Track 1:I have a follow up question. Uh, do you feel like leadership is, man is a manmade thing now? Let me preface, I was thinking while you were talking about what's the first example in scripture where like leadership is introduced? And I would have to fact check this, but I think, um, in judges or towards the end of judges, or maybe it's First Samuel? No, it's, I think it's first Samuel, you know, the, the leader or, and maybe both. So lemme just talk. So I think in judges, the people groan and complain and they're like a point us a leader. And I think God like raises up judges to like.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Right.
Track 1:You know, sort of lead them spiritually. And then at the end of judges, which I, I think, I think if I'm right, fir I think Samuel is like the last judge or one of the, maybe he is the last judge. And then he, and then the people groan and complain and they say, appoint us a leader so that we may be ruled by them. And I maybe paraphrasing. And so God, like, and Samuel's upset with the people'cause he is like, he's like, what are the, like where they're gonna become like the Canaanites and the Amorites and all the other tribes that they were at war against for so many years. And then God's like, well just appoint'em one, you know, like they're like, this is what they want and then I'm gonna turn them over to it. And so he raises up Saul to be their first le, their first king, their first leader. And so I guess that's my question is, do you think that's something manmade or do you think God intended for there to be leadership? Um, and maybe we just have distorted what leadership looks like.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Well, I think there's a combination of both. And I could be wrong. All this. I'll, you know, if I'm wrong, I'll confess and repent and fess up to
Track 1:It's okay.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:I Well, so I do feel like it is, like I, I do think in like, because like all in Old Testament, like when you, we were just talking about, uh, Joshua, right? Yeah. Um, so like God said, you're gonna lead my people into the Promised Land. And so like obviously like God wanted them to lead his people, but in reality it was Joshua following the Lord and his leadership. And he was just a, just a vessel in the hand of God to, to lead his people, but in reality, they were following the Lord. Um, so I do think, I mean, I do think God created leadership and I think it's good because he created it. However, I think we as sinners, just like we always do, and all throughout scripture, I see myself in so many things in scripture, especially in Peter, but that's a whole nother story. Um, I, um, I do think that God, I. Has created it, but we have, we have twisted it and made it what it, what was not created to be, um, to where it is more about, oh, look at me like I'm leading other people and, uh, I'm above other people. And look, come follow me. Instead of saying, Hey, I'm here to serve, like I'm here to serve you. I'm here to serve the Lord. And it's more about serving than about leading other people. Um, and that's exactly what Jesus did. And so I think that's why I like the, that's why I like servant leadership because it reminds you as a sinner that I am just a vessel and I'm nobody without Christ. And it humbles you because in Galatians six, nine it says, if, um, if anyone thinks you are something when you are not, you deceive yourself. So like. If you think you're something when you're actually not, you're deceiving yourself into sin. And so like, like, any way that we can humble ourselves, including me, man, any way I can remind myself to be humble and like I'm gonna do it. So like, I really feel like, you know, it goes back to what we were talking about, being a man, like humbling yourself and realizing that you're a sinner and that you are here to serve the Lord and serve, serve other people. Those two, the first two commandments, what do you think?
Track 1:Uh, so no cap. I, uh, the kids say cap
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Oh yeah,
Track 1:if any, if anyone is over the age of 33. Listening to this cap is when someone's telling a lie. And if say, no, cap, that means I'm not lying. Uh, so I said, no cap. So first Samuel eight, I'm not gonna read this whole thing, it's a whole chapter, but it talks about the, the title is Israel Demands a King, and you skip ahead verse 10, and the Samuel warns a, the people against the king, uh, against appointing a king. And then, then verse starting in verse 19, the Lord grants Israel's request. And I, I'm, without reading, I think, I think he, it's just warning like. I think that's what the differentiation I wanted to, I guess I thought I was making, but maybe not, is that yes, like God appointed Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, you know, Moses all through, throughout history, um, as leaders. But they, but you're right, they were serving, they were following God. They weren't like their, like their, their eyes were fixed on God. And I think in this scenario, the people wanted someone to govern them and to lead, like they wanted someone other than God to like govern them and lead them and, and establish a government. And so I think that's, that's what I was intending about that. But
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:And I also need to correct myself. I said Galatians six nine. It's actually Galatians six three, so I was six versus off. Uh,
Track 1:But, uh, I, I guess to close, like, I think, I think you,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:well I was just like, I just, I don't know, man. It's, there's so much when it comes to being a man, and, and I really do feel like, like I feel like there is a. there's this thing about, okay, well I'll become a man like when I get married. And that's not true either. Like, you don't become a man when you become married because the stuff that you struggle with before you get married will continue on unless you address it. Um, and so there's so many, I think, uh, uh, attributes, I think to becoming a man, um, or being a biblical man. Um, but I, I do think, you know, that we, we have to look at Jesus as the true form of masculinity and what manhood should be. And if you look at his life like. It is a hundred percent those two, the greatest two commandments. And, um, whether you're in, you know, high school, whether you're in college, whether you're working and you're single, whether you are married, whether you're with kids or without kids, whatever, it could be like a man is following the Lord first and foremost, trying to be more like him and, and allowing his spirit to change you and humble yourself so that you can, you know, just follow after him. Uh, because let's be, let's be real as a man, as very, I'm very prideful in a lot of areas, and the Lord has, has been working on my heart like crazy, but I'm still prideful in a lot of areas. And that's the complete opposite of Jesus. And so therefore, that's not being a man. Uh, being a man is being humble and being willing to say like, yeah, I messed up and I'm gonna do whatever I can to fix it. Um, or. To not fix it and just accept my consequences. Um, so a lot to being a man. There's so much that we haven't even sniffed.
Track 1:You, could go down every facet. Do you want to go down it? I mean, not now. We're running out of time now, but we can go down on another episode. I think that'd be great. Um,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:I think it would
Track 1:cause you could go down, like you could go down like, you know, what does it look like to be a godly man in my marriage? Like, what is it like to be a godly man at work? What is it like to be a godly man in my church? You know, et cetera. Like, I think you could spend a whole hour, I mean, you could spend, I mean, you spend the rest of. Like you can absolutely spend more time talking about being, being a godly man. Um,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:So if you could kind of summarize kind of what we kind of talked about, what, how, what would you say?
Track 1:Um, I think so if you're talking about, I guess if you're asking yourself what constitutes a godly man? Like what, what qualities do I look for? What, where do I start? I think the whole, I think the whole Bible does a great job of sort of laying it out. Um, you can look at a lot of examples, a lot of good examples in the Old Testament, but they're not perfect examples, right? They all fail in their own ways. Then you get to Jesus, and I'm glad you hit on Jesus before I did because I think you did great. Um, because. Jesus is perfect. Jesus is the best example. And when it takes time to see, like maybe here's not what it, here's not some good ways, or here's some good qualities, but maybe not the whole package put together, then you get to Christ and you see like boom. Like Jesus lays it out very clearly on loving the Lord your God and loving your neighbor as yourself and like everything else is, you know, if you take nothing else, like those are the two things I would take is love God and love your neighbor as yourself, and then the rest will just work itself out. Um,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Yep.
Track 1:that's how I, I feel like he did a great job. You nailed
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Yeah, you too, man. I, I'm telling you, man, I, I, this is something that, as you know, like we have to continually learn and grow every single day and repent from our sin and just allow the Lord to work. So it's a learning process. Oh, we're all the men at,
Track 1:close with
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:the biblical men at.
Track 1:Yeah. Where they at?'cause I'll close with this. Uh, this is not, not a joke. A guy asked me earlier this week, um, or no, last week. He asked me last week, I won't say who it was, but it was a guy who just got engaged and he was like, what? He's like, you got any marriage advice for me? And I've been joking with him, you know? And like, I guess he just jokingly said, yeah, you got any advice? And I was like, actually, yeah. So I sat down and I was like, I, I was like, I need you to know I'm gonna be serious right now. I was like, because I, I have a problem with, my fault.'cause I joke a lot with people and then I'll say something serious like in the next moment and they're like, what?
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:like, oh, whoa,
Track 1:They're. like, are you? They're like, was that a joke too? I'm like, no. Why would that be a joke? And they're like, I don't know. You just first like, I don't even
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:would that be a joke?
Track 1:whole time, It's, it's, it's like, it's like two truths and a lie. And you're like, wait, wait. They all sound like they're true. But, uh, he said, you got any advice for me? And I was like, Hey. I was like, I'm going to be, I was like, since you asked for real, I'll, I'll give you some real advice. I was like, be honest with your spouse. I was like, I was like, I've learned the hard way. You can, you can lie whether it's a white lie or whether it's some kind of coverup, like, like telling your spouse the truth. You wanna talk about being a godly man? Like, just tell your spouse the truth. The truth, uh, is better. The truth is harder. Um, but better in the long run. And so just do it. It's fine.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Yep. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Track 1:So that's my Philippians something. Someone will look it up for us.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:yeah, I can't, I just know the verse. I don't remember where it is. I'm not very good at that, but at least I know the verse.
Track 1:Yeah. I'm the same way. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm pretty sure in James just talking about taming the tongue and you know, like it does. I'm like, where? Or like what specifically? And then I'll just paraphrase, which is not great. That's how you get into trouble. But anyway,
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:I'm actually way off. that's first. It's first John one, nine.
Track 1:Wow. Not even Philippians.
squadcaster-3jf7_1_11-14-2023_200322:Hmm. That's tough. Anyways, enjoyed a
Track 1:Yeah, I think time. we'll see.
